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GPT-61S 555 -3.8%
CL-SN55 553 -3.8%
CL-OP55 551 -4%
GPT-61TERR 547 -3.5%
GEM-4CM 546 -4%
CL-OP55EH 542 -3.9%
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GEM-4CL 520 -3.9%
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CL-OP55H 506 -4%
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GEM-4AR 498 -3.9%
GPT-61TERRH 490 -3.2%
CL-OP55M 483 -3.6%
MUSE-WONDFUL 479 -3.8%
CL-SN55H 467 -3.3%
CL-HK55 463 -2.9%
GPT-61TERRM 462 -3.1%
GPT-6A 451 -4.7%
MUSE-WOND 451 -3.6%
CL-HK55XH 450 -3%
GPT-6ASTRXH 440 -4.8%
GROK-47 440 -3.1%
GROK-47H 438 -2.9%
GPT-6ASTRH 437 -4.8%
DSK-V-340615 436 -2.9%
QWEN-38X 428 -2.9%
GPT-61SOLL 423 -3.2%
GLM-53 420 -3%
MIMO-V26P 420 -2.6%
CL-HK55H 419 -2.8%
LING-31F1019 417 -2.6%
GEM-38F 416 -2.8%
GPT-6ASTRM 415 -4.6%
MMAX-M31F 414 -2.8%
GEM-38FM 412 -2.8%
GPT-61TERRNO 411 -2.8%
GROK-47L 410 -2.8%
DSK-V-3E48BD 410 -2.6%
GPT-6L 407 -2.6%
GLM-53F 407 -2.6%
STEP-5 405 -2.6%
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MIMO-V26F 401 -2.4%
CL-FABL51 399 -4.5%
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CL-OP55L 393 -3.4%
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DSK-V4P 365 -2.4%
GPT-6LUNAH 365 -2.1%
GLM-53L 364 -2.4%
CL-SN55L 362 -2.7%
GEM-38FL 361 -2.4%
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QWEN-827B 349 -2.2%
CL-HK55L 347 -2%
MMAX-M3 345 -2%
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DSK-V-02811D 344 -2%
K2-HORI375BA 342 -2%
REFL-BEAM 338 -2%
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QWEN-827BL 320 -1.8%
NEMO-35SUPEV 313 -1.9%
INKL 295 -1.7%
NVID-NEMO3UL 295 -1.3%
GEM-35FLITE 295 -1.3%
GPT-6LUNAL 287 -1.4%
GPT-6LUNANON 286 -1%
NANB-333B 285 -2.7%
QWEN-827BNON 282 -1.4%
COMM-APLUS 266 -1.1%
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GRAN-428B 258 -0.8%
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MINI-33B 225 —
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NOVA-MICR 225 —
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QWEN-54B 225 —
QWEN-54BNONR 225 —
TINY-AYAGLOB 225 —
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GPT-61S 555 -3.8%
CL-SN55 553 -3.8%
CL-OP55 551 -4%
GPT-61TERR 547 -3.5%
GEM-4CM 546 -4%
CL-OP55EH 542 -3.9%
GPT-61SOLXH 541 -3.6%
GPT-61SOLH 527 -3.7%
CL-SN55XH 523 -3.5%
GEM-4CL 520 -3.9%
GPT-61TERRXH 507 -3.4%
CL-OP55H 506 -4%
GPT-61SOLM 500 -3.5%
KIMI-K31P 499 -3.5%
GEM-4AR 498 -3.9%
GPT-61TERRH 490 -3.2%
CL-OP55M 483 -3.6%
MUSE-WONDFUL 479 -3.8%
CL-SN55H 467 -3.3%
CL-HK55 463 -2.9%
GPT-61TERRM 462 -3.1%
GPT-6A 451 -4.7%
MUSE-WOND 451 -3.6%
CL-HK55XH 450 -3%
GPT-6ASTRXH 440 -4.8%
GROK-47 440 -3.1%
GROK-47H 438 -2.9%
GPT-6ASTRH 437 -4.8%
DSK-V-340615 436 -2.9%
QWEN-38X 428 -2.9%
GPT-61SOLL 423 -3.2%
GLM-53 420 -3%
MIMO-V26P 420 -2.6%
CL-HK55H 419 -2.8%
LING-31F1019 417 -2.6%
GEM-38F 416 -2.8%
GPT-6ASTRM 415 -4.6%
MMAX-M31F 414 -2.8%
GEM-38FM 412 -2.8%
GPT-61TERRNO 411 -2.8%
GROK-47L 410 -2.8%
DSK-V-3E48BD 410 -2.6%
GPT-6L 407 -2.6%
GLM-53F 407 -2.6%
STEP-5 405 -2.6%
CL-FABL51XH 403 -4.7%
GPT-61TERRL 403 -2.9%
MIMO-V26F 401 -2.4%
CL-FABL51 399 -4.5%
CL-SN55M 395 -2.9%
CL-OP55L 393 -3.4%
MIST-LARG4 390 -2.7%
CL-FABL51H 386 -4.5%
CL-HK55M 386 -2.3%
GPT-6LUNAXH 377 -2.6%
MUSE-SPAROPE 375 -2.6%
MIST-LARG4M 371 -2.4%
DSK-V4P 365 -2.4%
GPT-6LUNAH 365 -2.1%
GLM-53L 364 -2.4%
CL-SN55L 362 -2.7%
GEM-38FL 361 -2.4%
GPT-6ASTRL 359 -4.5%
CL-FABL51M 359 -4.5%
QWEN-827B 349 -2.2%
CL-HK55L 347 -2%
MMAX-M3 345 -2%
GPT-6LUNAM 344 -2.3%
DSK-V-02811D 344 -2%
K2-HORI375BA 342 -2%
REFL-BEAM 338 -2%
QWEN-827BM 332 -1.8%
CL-FABL51L 329 -4.4%
QWEN-827BL 320 -1.8%
NEMO-35SUPEV 313 -1.9%
INKL 295 -1.7%
NVID-NEMO3UL 295 -1.3%
GEM-35FLITE 295 -1.3%
GPT-6LUNAL 287 -1.4%
GPT-6LUNANON 286 -1%
NANB-333B 285 -2.7%
QWEN-827BNON 282 -1.4%
COMM-APLUS 266 -1.1%
MUSE-GLIM 263 -1.1%
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GRAN-428B 258 -0.8%
MIST-SMAL4 252 -0.4%
INKL-SM 235 -2.5%
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GEMM-4E4B 225 —
GEMM-4E4BNON 225 —
LING-30TINY 225 —
MINI-33B 225 —
NORT-MCODE 225 —
NOVA-MICR 225 —
NVID--ADE3B4 225 —
QWEN-54B 225 —
QWEN-54BNONR 225 —
TINY-AYAGLOB 225 —

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Thinking Machines Ships TML-Interaction-Small: 0.40s Latency, 77.8 FD-Bench, Doubles GPT-Realtime-2.0

Thinking Machines Lab, the AI company founded by former OpenAI CTO Mira Murati, published a research preview on May 11 of what it calls “interaction models” — a new model architecture class that treats real-time responsiveness as a core capability rather than a post-hoc API wrapper.

The first model in the class is TML-Interaction-Small: a 276-billion parameter Mixture-of-Experts architecture with 12 billion active parameters.

The Architecture Problem It Solves

Every current frontier model is turn-based by design. The model waits for a user to finish input, processes it, then produces output. During generation, the model’s perception of incoming data is frozen. This creates latency in both directions: the human has to batch thoughts like composing an email, and the model can’t respond to new information until its current response is complete.

Thinking Machines calls this the “collaboration bottleneck.” Their solution is a multi-stream, micro-turn design that processes 200-millisecond chunks of input and output simultaneously.

The technical name for this is encoder-free early fusion. Instead of passing audio through a large standalone encoder like Whisper, or video through a separate vision transformer, the system ingests raw audio as dMel and raw image patches (40x40) through a lightweight embedding layer. Everything is co-trained from scratch within the transformer. The result is a model that can listen and speak at the same time — genuine full-duplex — and react to visual cues mid-response without pausing.

Dual-Model System

TML-Interaction-Small is paired with a background model that handles asynchronous heavy work: complex reasoning, web browsing, tool calls. The interaction model manages the live conversation and dialogue presence. When the background model has a result, it streams it back for the interaction model to weave into the conversation naturally.

The system also carries an internal sense of time. Unlike standard LLMs, where time is only known if provided in a prompt, the interaction model can manage time-sensitive instructions without timestamps.

Benchmark Numbers

The company benchmarked against FD-bench V1.5, a benchmark designed to measure interaction quality rather than raw reasoning ability.

MetricTML-Interaction-SmallGPT-realtime-2.0 (min)Gemini-3.1-flash-live (min)
Turn-taking latency0.40s1.18s0.57s
FD-bench V1.5 (Interaction Quality)77.846.854.3
IFEval (VoiceBench)82.181.767.6
Harmbench (Refusal %)99.099.599.0

TML-Interaction-Small’s turn-taking latency sits below the perceptual threshold for natural conversation (typically cited as around 0.5 seconds). GPT-realtime-2.0 at 1.18 seconds is well above it.

On visual interaction benchmarks — RepCount-A (counting physical repetitions in video) and ProactiveVideoQA (answering questions as visual evidence appears) — the competing models produced incorrect or no responses while TML-Interaction-Small engaged with the visual stream in real time.

Availability and Context

The model is not publicly available. Thinking Machines is releasing it to a select group of partners now, with a “limited research preview” opening to collect feedback in coming months, and a wider release later in 2026.

The company has roughly 130 employees. It raised $2 billion at a $12 billion valuation in July 2025, with investors including Andreessen Horowitz, Nvidia, Accel, ServiceNow, Cisco, AMD, and Jane Street. Its first product, Tinker (a managed fine-tuning API), launched in October 2025.

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, who has a strategic partnership with the company committing at least one gigawatt of Vera Rubin systems, commented: “Thinking Machines has brought together a world-class team to advance the frontier of AI.”

Soumith Chintala, creator of PyTorch, joined the company as CTO in 2026. Meta poached seven founding members over the past several months, though Thinking Machines has continued hiring.

Why It Matters

The major frontier labs have all shipped some form of real-time voice: GPT-realtime-2.0, Gemini-3.1-flash-live, ByteDance’s full-duplex Seeduplex. All of them treat interactivity as a harness layered on top of existing models.

Thinking Machines is arguing this is the wrong architecture — that an interaction model needs to be trained from scratch with real-time presence as a first-class objective. The FD-bench gap (77.8 vs 46.8 for GPT) suggests the argument has merit, though FD-bench is a benchmark Thinking Machines had reason to influence. Independent evaluations will be the real test when the model becomes more widely accessible.

The enterprise applications the company is highlighting — real-time process monitoring, latency-natural customer service, time-aware lab assistants — are all areas where the current 1-second+ lag in competing systems creates genuine friction. At 0.40 seconds, TML-Interaction-Small is operating at the edge of natural conversation timing.